“All gas, no brake.” This is what NASCAR’s recent rising sensation, Ty Gibbs, had to say about his donut technique to the senior Joe Gibbs Racing driver, Kyle Busch. But this was something that the veteran didn’t really accept of the young driver.

“That’s not right,” Busch said of Gibbs’ method of making donuts.

Gibbs then corrected himself by emphasizing that “little bit of break” every once in a while.

The two-time Cup Series champion then went on to reveal his technique of making donuts whenever he wins a race, something he’s done 224 times in his NASCAR career.

“You put it in second gear. First gear doesn’t spin the tire fast enough to make any smoke,” Busch explained. “So you want first gear or second gear.”

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“If you’re at a short track, you might be able to get away with a third. Typically second. Pop the clutch, keep the wheel spinning, and then I always use break and gas to modulate the both of them in order to kind of like, get it around, making circles or stop the circle to go straight,” he added.

Kyle Busch and Ty Gibbs talk about their favorite donuts

For Ty Gibbs, his favorite donut wasn’t actually his most favorite, but his most “memorable.” The young JGR driver described how he got in trouble for doing what he did because the tires caught on fire.

Gibbs added that while it was pretty cool, he wouldn’t do that again simply because it wasn’t fun to do that.

As for Kyle Busch, his most memorable donut was when he was in his Xfinity days, when he won his first race at Charlotte in his rookie days.

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“The tires were made of a different compound where they smoke a lot easier so you can get way more smoke than what you can today,” he said. “There’s a photo of me, like you could see me and the car coming out of the smoke and the whole, like the whole grandstand, you can’t see nothing behind me.”