In a candid moment on her new podcast “Everybody’s Crazy,” Savannah James, wife of NBA superstar Lebron James, opened up about the complexities of loyalty and friendship. Joined by her co-host and friend of 15 years April McDaniel, James delved into the tricky nature of allegiances in friendships after a thought-provoking call from their mutual friend, Malaika.

The discussion took an emotional turn, with Malaika confessing that she finds it difficult to take sides in conflicts and that she would much rather remain neutral. The confession spurred the hosts to reflect on the complicated nature of loyalty in friendships.

I’m too loyal, says Savannah James

In the podcast, James said, “I feel like sometimes I’m too loyal,” tackling the idea of what loyalty in friendships means to her and what she feels about neutrality. She went on to use a hypothetical scenario wherein her friend might harbor a dislike for someone called ‘Sally’. Savannah shows unwavering commitment to her friends, even in situations where she isn’t directly involved. “If you say we don’t like Sally, you don’t like Sally, but I don’t know Sally, it’s f*ck Sally for me,” James said, emphasizing her headstrong allegiance to the people she cares about. “I don’t even ever got to meet Sally.”

Savannah James further noted that despite her commitment to her friendships, she struggled with the idea of being ‘too loyal’, simultaneously questioning the validity of such an idea. She said, “Sometimes I struggle with, and I don’t know if there’s such a thing as being too loyal, but that’s how I feel.”  Moved by Savannah’s words, Malaika reaffirmed her friend’s steadfast devotion, recognizing her dedication to supporting the people she loves. “Savannah, I 100% agree you are loyal to the end,” she added, a sentiment shared by her friends and even her husband. Here’s what he said about his wife in the past.

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“I had nothing,” said LeBron James

LeBron and Savannah got married in 2013 and have been together since high school. The couple celebrated their 10th marriage anniversary last year. LeBron has thanked his wife for supporting him and his career on multiple occasions. In an interview with People, LeBron said, “Savannah was with me when I had absolutely nothing.” 

He continued, “She was down when I was at my high school—no cameras, no lights. And she was there with me. You wouldn’t be talking to me right now if it weren’t for her.” She has been a pillar in LeBron’s life, cheering him on from the sidelines—a testament to Savannah’s loyalty to the people in her life.

Savannah James and April McDaniel promised to be ‘up-close and personal’ to their listeners and that is what they got. Her sincere and honest confessions on her podcast are one of the first times that she has opened up about her personal life. Her podcast was launched today and fans can expect many more episodes to come, ones packed with more confessions and emotions.