“Bet He Knows a Lot More About What Goes on…”: Joe Rogan Branded Dana White’s “Shill” as Fans Accuse $120M Worth Podcaster of Deflecting Fighter Pay Questions
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Joe Rogan, a familiar voice in the world of UFC commentary since his debut at UFC 12, has never shied away from sharing his thoughts on the sport’s issues. Whether it’s advocating for fights in basketball courts, criticizing the ban on 12-6 elbows, or discussing fighter pay, Rogan has consistently voiced his candid opinions.
However, a recently resurfaced clip from UFC 58, dating back to 2006 during the main event between Rich Franklin and David Loiseau, has reignited discussions about fighter pay and Rogan’s stance on the matter. This clip sparked a debate among fans, with some questioning whether Rogan’s current views align with those expressed in 2006.
Fans are unsure about Joe Rogan and his advocacy for increased fighter pay in the UFC
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The discussion surrounding fighter pay in the UFC has gained momentum in recent times, with notable fighters like Francis Ngannou openly addressing their concerns. In the clip, while commentating on the fight, Rogan expressed his hope that fighters would earn significantly more in the future, saying, “My only wish is that these guys were making about 30 times what they’re making now… and, uh, soon that will be the case, I’m sure.”
The reactions by the fans were concerned if Rogan is indeed just a company man when it comes to the issue. Or if he has a responsibility to champion the fighters’ cause. Fans chimed in with various opinions on the matter:
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Seeing Rogan deflect/ignore the UFC fighter pay topic on his podcast so blatantly made me think he’s just ignorant, but this shows me he’s probably not. Dude is just a shill. Despite having the wealth to not be one. Kinda disappointing. https://t.co/sTpK9CzW8O
— LAMO (@myopinionisseen) October 2, 2023
Some were confident that Rogan’s stance makes him a “shill” for the UFC.
I think it makes him a shill
— LAMO (@myopinionisseen) October 3, 2023
While others stated that the online community chooses to be outraged at everything
Mma twitter just picks things to be mad about everyday
— Split Decision (@SplitDecUFC) October 3, 2023
And some mentioned that Rogan might be mindful of his relationship with UFC CEO Dana White
I feel like most people would also say that if Rogan ran the UFC there would be much less adverting, and more focus on the fighters. Which would also make them more money, so I just think Rogan understands that he shouldn’t step on Dana’s toes
— Nolan Murphy (@NolanMurphy18) October 3, 2023
Rogan’s awareness of issues behind the scenes was also mentioned.
You expect him to champion a cause that the fighters themselves aren’t even fighting for? I bet he knows alot more about what goes on behind the scenes that seems to keep most fighters happy.
— Dana Black (@FUtwitEmployee) October 3, 2023
Fans were also ready to point out Rogan has previously spoken about the UFC and its monopoly.
He’s literally said things about the negativity of the UFCs monopoly.
— John Elden Ring (@JohnEldenRing51) October 3, 2023
And others pointed out that fighters get paid according to their popularity and success.
People act like unknown fighters should be given 50/50 contracts… having a chance to earn 24k 4 times a year for having a fight is very good for a low level fighter
— BispingsRightEye (@mma_verdict) October 3, 2023
Some fans even pointed out that Rogan hosted Francis Ngannou on his podcast recently, who has been vocal about fighter pay issues.
didnt he just have ngannou on, whose main storyline was leaving ufc due to pay
— Izzy (@Izzy_ez_) October 3, 2023
The diverse range of opinions expressed by fans reflects the complex and multifaceted issue of fighter pay in the UFC. Some fans view Joe Rogan’s stance as potentially influenced by the promotion, while others believe he has an understanding of the delicate balance required to navigate the world of MMA. Furthermore, Rogan’s recent conversation with Francis Ngannou, whose departure from the UFC was fueled by contract disputes has added another layer to the discussion.
Francis Ngannou and his exit from the UFC
In an interview with the MMA hour, Ngannou revealed his negotiations with the UFC. He had declared his desire for a fresh three-fight contract, intending to complete it within a year, as he transitioned to professional boxing. He anticipated earning approximately $8 million for his bout against Jon Jones at UFC 285. Following that, he planned to conclude a trilogy with Stipe Miocic and engage in a rematch with Jones before making the leap to boxing, where the prospect of high-paying bouts against Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua awaited.
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However, a significant obstacle arose that led to the contract’s demise: Ngannou’s aversion to the standard UFC agreement. During the same interview, Ngannou articulated, “In that contract, I’m not free, I’m not an independent contractor. I have no rights. I hand over all the power to you guys. I’ve seen in the past how you guys can utilize your power against me, and I don’t want that.”
Opting for a boxing venture, he secured a reported $10 million for his debut showdown against Tyson Fury in Saudi Arabia on October 28th. Additionally, Ngannou clinched one of the most lucrative contracts ever offered to an MMA fighter with PFL. Ngannou’s experience highlights the ongoing issue of fighter pay in the UFC and underscores the importance of the conversation that Joe Rogan’s comments have reignited.
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Edited by:
Yeswanth Praveen