“I’m going to slide down the paranormal rabbit hole and find out how much of this is real.” Joe Rogan has been open to many experiences, and one of them made him sit down with John Krueth of the Rhine Center of Psychic Research and ‘mentalist’ Banachek back in 2013. His one aim? Find out if psychics and mentalists are a real thing. He even challenged them, “If you are a psychic, send me a message. Send it to my mind, I’m waiting.” While we don’t know if he got any message, after all those years, he is still up for things that leave him positively unnerved.

On his show The Joe Rogan Experience, the UFC commentator has welcomed over 1800 guests now. From discussing UFOs, Egyptian pyramids, and even paranormal activities, Rogan has been deep into conversations that intrigue us all. But this time, what went down when he invited ‘mentalist’ Oz Pearlman has left him questioning many things.

It started like any other session on JRE: light teasing, a few mind games, and a guest who appeared more charming than frightening. Pearlman, a mentalist with a knack for smooth talk, glided into the conversation like a party trick pro. But suddenly, without warning, it became personal. Not dramatic or loud—just a gradual shift in energy that clearly made Joe Rogan uncomfortable, particularly after his ATM PIN was guessed as shown on a tweet posted by Collin Rugg.

There’s a moment when you can sense that Rogan is becoming tense. That smile folks wear when they’re trying to keep their cool, but their eyes tell them otherwise. On JRE #2332, this how a seemingly harmless trick turned for Rogan:

Pearlman: “If I told you right now to make up a random number… I want it to be spontaneous. Would your wife know your ATM pin code? No?”
Rogan: “No”
Pearlman: “Lie to me. Do not tell me your real ATM pin code. Obviously. Unless you want to. Make up a 4-digit number off the top of your head. What feels to you utterly spontaneous. When I say ‘Go’ 1,2,3, 4-digit code, random, Go!”
Rogan: “Okay… 2020.”
Pearlman: “Okay. So you asked me how I do what I do. I’m gonna write down 2020. It’s weird, but statistically, men will lie bigger, women- smaller. Men like to have same things but bigger. No shocker. So, I don’t think… I would tell you right off the jump for me, that means, that your first number is small.”

After a back and forth on how Rogan would’ve done things differently if Pearlman would’ve asked him to take five minutes instead of spontaneously picking a number, where the host kept denying of the fact, Pearlman continued:

Pearlman: “Worked out for me either way. You’d be honest with me if I’m right. I got a hit which means it’s a zero or one. I think the first number of your code’s a one. Isn’t it? Your real pin code.”
Rogan (Surprised): “Why would I tell you on the air?”

Oz Pearlman, calm and methodical, began breaking it down: how rushed decisions reveal trends and how males like to go large with their lies. It wasn’t flashy—just quietly unsettling. When he eventually scribbled something and handed it to Rogan off-camera, the host remained motionless.

Rogan: “That’s weird.”
Pearlman (joking): “You know he’s calling his bank right now.”
Rogan: “Yeah, I don’t like that.”

The tension increased when the UFC commentator, half-joking, asked, “Have you ever done that to people and then withdrawn money?” The magician grinned and replied, “No comment.” It didn’t land like a joke—it landed like a moment too real for comfort.

By the end, even Rogan seemed rattled. Was it a trick? Psychology? Or did someone actually guess his PIN code on air? Something he hadn’t shared with his wife of 16 years! Whatever it was, it went above the JRE host’s expectations. And judging by his nervous smile, it’s a clip that’s going to linger. However, it wasn’t the only moment that stunned the UFC commentator. To make things more interesting, he even got his future predicted on-air.

Joe Rogan gets stunned by a future prediction

If guessing an ATM PIN wasn’t enough to make Joe Rogan nervous, what happened next definitely did. Still clearly agitated, he attempted to reset the mood—shake it off and return to regular programming. But Oz Pearlman still had one card to play. A sealed envelope, which had been on the table since the beginning of the show, suddenly became the focus. “Let’s open it now,” Pearlman said with a relaxed grin. And with that, the tone changed again—this time to something disturbingly precise.

The envelope did not contain a fortune cookie line or a wild guess. It described a moment Rogan hadn’t shared out loud: “14 fighters will go through your head, and Anderson Silva will be the last.” It was an odd detail that somehow corresponded to what the JRE host had internally processed during the show.

You could see it in his expression—the way he blinked a little slowly, the smirk sliding into disbelief. “That’s insane,” he said, unsure of what to do with what had just happened. However, Pearlman did not believe it was magical. He dismissed the supernatural element and explained everything as part of his method—psychology, patterns, and timing.

But that didn’t make the experience any less weird. Even in a studio where Rogan has heard everything from alien hypotheses to quantum physics, this one stood out. What do you think? How did the mentalist pull it off? Let us know in the comments.