It’s not every day that Joe Rogan‘s wildest UFC fantasy receives a response from the fighters involved, but that’s exactly what occurred when the longtime commentator proposed a dream bout between Jon Jones and Alex Pereira at the White House. During the UFC Vancouver broadcast weekend, Pereira’s cryptic post transformed the UFC commentator’s bold idea from a podcast talking point to something that suddenly felt… real.

It all started with Joe Rogan’s stunning claim on The Joe Rogan Experience. “If Jon really thinks he’s fighting Alex Pereira, he’s getting ready—at least in his mind,” Rogan said. “The big money fight is Alex and Jon Jones at the White House. Catchweight, 225 pounds. It doesn’t have to be for a title. Make it the BMF upper edition. That would probably be the biggest fight in human history: the greatest of all time versus the most destructive fighter.”

The video went viral, and Alex Pereira‘s response seemed to be an easy indication that he heard the JRE host’s pitch loud and clear. The reigning light heavyweight champion shared the same JRE clip with a short clip of himself that perfectly captured the tension Joe Rogan had imagined, as it featured a brief but electric exchange between him and ‘Bones.’

In the video, ‘Poatan’ approaches, grinning, and asks Jon Jones, “Chama or no chama?” And ‘Bones’ does not hesitate. “Chama,” he adds, as the two shake hands, indicating a quiet agreement between two of the sport’s most dangerous men. Fans did not require context. This was the beginning of something bigger. After all, Alex Pereira considers this fight to be more than just entertainment.

After reclaiming his light heavyweight title with a devastating knockout of Magomed Ankalaev, the Brazilian juggernaut has hinted at a move to heavyweight—and this time, he’s targeting the biggest name possible. His desire for monumental challenges reflects Jones’ own legacy as a two-division champion, and a bout in the White House would be a platform worthy of both men’s epic reputations. But there is still one man standing in the way, and it’s none other than Dana White.

The UFC CEO had previously dismissed the bout when inquired during the UFC 309 presser, saying, “There’s no f—–way I make the Pereira fight. Jon’s too big, too good a wrestler.” However, with Jones wanting to return and ‘Poatan’ publicly supporting the idea, the promotion may face the same dilemma Joe Rogan predicted: when fantasy becomes too fantastic and too profitable to ignore, can you really let it go? Especially when you have a man with some super-soldier DNA like Jon Jones?

Joe Rogan claims Jon Jones inherited ‘super athlete’ genes

As speculation of a White House clash between Jon Jones and Alex Pereira grows, Joe Rogan feels ‘Bones’ is more than just a brilliant fighter; he’s built differently. The veteran UFC commentator stated that Jones’ domination in the Octagon actually stems from his genes, which were passed down by his grandmother, whom the JRE described as “a big lady” and the true root of the Jones family’s exceptional athleticism.

On the aforementioned edition of The Joe Rogan Experience with comedian Andrew Schulz, Rogan said that Jones had told him that his family’s physical gifts came from her. “They’re huge, and their grandmother, Jon told me, is where the genetics come from,” the JRE host said. With Chandler and Arthur Jones winning Super Bowls, Rogan joked that the brothers were “super athletes,” destined for fame in football or the Octagon.

Joe Rogan added that Jones, ever the strategist, is already secretly planning his next move. “He’s doing what a pool hustler does,” Rogan explained. “If he really thinks he’s fighting in June, then he’s already in camp.” According to the UFC commentator, Jones’ unusual genes and calculated mindset make him the ultimate challenge even for a knockout artist like Alex Pereira.